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the fiscal cliff, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we cannot afford the self inflicted wound to the economy. the folks you send to washington have to do their jobs. >> reporter: if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday each side says the other is to blame. >> we can avoid the fiscal cliff if the president and the democrat-controlled senate step forward and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> reporter: all over the country right now, uncertainty is in the air. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill but is it going to deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause a dropoff in sales. >> reporter: gets a deal is up to the top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperfect. that's where we are. >> reporter: harry reid and mitch mcconnell say they are confident they can
republican colleagues, by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. the big chance for a big deal is at the debt ceiling. that is when we will have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from becoming greece and save social security and medicare. >> before leaving for hawaii for the holidays, obama urged congress to come up with a deal before the christmas break. many spent today navigating the parking lots of packed stores and shopping malls for final gifts. some had a really good reason for hitting the stores in these final hours before christmas. >> i have a baby that is due christmas morning. so i came out here to do some last-minute shopping. it is tough to shop during the holidays, especially right before christmas because, again, you miss out on deals. >> a recent poll found 132 million people had not finished their holiday shopping and 26 million had not even began. many retailers will be open christmas eve late to accommodate them. the pope spoke in a number of languages today in vatican city. he encouraged people to look beyond the materialistic s
cliff with this debt ceiling expanded and talk with the fiscal cliff. republicans didn't want to do that. that was part of the big negotiations. now that we are talking about the small deal, i think the debt ceiling is going to be a separate issue and probably we will have to be talking about this yet again in the spring. thankfully people who are watching right now will already know what's going on. >> lisa, thank you very much. there will be another change in president obama's cabinet heading into his second term. lisa jackson administrator for the environmental protection agency will be stepping out after the state of the union peach next month. jackson cited the epa's progress in food, water, and air quality and also energy independence. jackson started at the agency as a scientist 25 years ago. humans of weapons show up in los angeles. from hand guns to revolvers and rifles and even assault weapons. just a sampling of guns traded for grocery gift cards. efull ap? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to qu
on wednesday in hopes of coming up with an agreement for the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now because that's what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate. >> reporter: that would raise taxes on people making more than $200,000 a year. each making a parting pitch. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, prevents unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the presidents solution of raising tax rates would still be ready for as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of a financial crisis. >> it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that if we allow that to happen it will be the most collosal consequential
does the deadline for the so- called fiscal cliff and tonight a new development. house republicans tossed the fiscal cliff problem to the senate today. saying once the senate has a plan congress can go forward. john fowler investigated some of the latest moves and joins us live with what could happen a week from today. john? >> reporter: do mog, we get deep spending cuts and across- the-board tax hikes. con shull staffers told me -- congressional staffers told me today, expect a bumpy ride of the halls of power empty, although negotiateders and the president are back at work. >> at the very least let's agree right now on what we already agree on. >> reporter: an olive branch to the gop and carrot to corporate giants, including the bay area's google and apple. the administration now suggesting cutting corporate tax rates. the u.s. has among the world's highest. but closing loop holes that helped google, for instance, avoid $2 billion in taxes last year. >> corporations are concerned because they're not sure the extent to which exemptions would be eliminated. >> reporter: wells ca
the fiscal cliff, which are the tax rates. republicans are saying, i'm told, that they actually want to keep all tax rates in place for those making even more than 400,000 a year. democrats and the president compared on keeping the tax rates in place for incomes of $250,000, letting everybody else's expire to help go towards deficit reduction. but democrats in the talks have been willing to come up and that's another big gulf between the two of them on this issue of tax rates. >> dana bash, thanks for the latest update from capitol hill. let's get you checked in with other storyings trending on cnn.com. the death toll from russia in a plane crash has risen to five. the plane went off a runway at a russian airport. >>> two georgia boys, will soon be headed home after being missing for several days. henry and ben were found in austin, texas. police say their father, daniel cleary failed to return them home after a holiday visit. cleary is now in police custody. and who doesn't know the oakridge boys, the group sang for former president george h.w. bush while he's recovering in hospital. we'll
boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if washington. that shouldn't be the test here, it shouldn't be the consideration. but senator reid has had it within his power since spring to amend the house bill and send it back with whatever changes he wanted. that's what the constitution says. sadly, they've given speeches instead of getting the job done. but nobody, nobody wants taxes to go up on middle class americans. and i hope that everybody works real hard over the weekend. a lot of americans have to work on the weekend. i don't think it's a big deal that we have to work this weekend. >> it's not a big deal and you should all be working this weekend. listen, a few weeks ago it looked like speaker boehner and president obama were pretty close on a grand bargain. maybe not as big as should would hope. it looked like the president was saying, we'll raise that top rate and offer some entitlement reform. social security changes, cpi. some talk of raising the medicare eligibility age.
to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like. as we understand from sources, al inna, it could be a couple of days, even though this are reconvening tomorrow, it could be a couple of days before they outline the proposal. we're told by sources they are waiting to get republican support in the senate but to build pressure in the house. if they move the deadline close -- move the timeline from unveiling a proposal as close to the new year as possible it increases pressure on the house and, of course, if the house doesn't take up the bill, you can see that we're already sort of setting the scene for the blame game. democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the p
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over that fiscal cliff. that would allow hard lying republicans to have lower taxes. >> to apiece voters. great. >> so called it low form of chay in an begans. >> i think it would be horrible. i think i don't think it's fair to the american people. >> with 2 million people on the verge of losing their unemployment benefits, there are too many lives at stake if we don't get it before the end of the year. >> the ceo of star, bucks is sending a message. writing come together on the coffee cups they serve on thursday and friday. urging a compromise on fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> the city of san francisco may pay employees to stay healthy. a group of government employees consider to be the healthiest. of that group, two-thirds were overweight. now city leaders in san francisco are considering a plan to give direct incentives to employees for being healthy. it would save the city money in the long run. >> a request for a waiver of the no child left behind law. the goals are unreelistic and flawed. to evaluate teachers based on their student's test scores. so far 33 states and the ter
, but can he lead both parties to a compromise fiscal cliff work-around? republicans say democrats have been dragging their feet for months and they won't be pressured into what they considered a bad deal that doesn't help balance the nation's books. >> the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's political theater or they have a deal. my bet is it's theater. >> reporter: speaker john boehner hasn't been able to get them to budge on a deal to raise taxes and the name calling is getting ugly. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: and it's true the senate controlled by democrats is working this week, but they're not working on the fiscal cliff. and the house won't even be back to work until sunday, just two days before the year-end deadline. then there is also the milk fiscal cliff. have you heard of that one? if congress does not
between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because
for stopping this fiscal cliff business. we are going to speak to a republican lawmaker in a moment, and marcia blackburn and in the meantime, you are watching the speciacoverage here on cnn and don lemon and me and our colleagues in washington. we will be right back. s with adding a friend, ♪ ♪ could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on. offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> as republicans and democrats are at an impasse, both sides are blaming each other, and the markets will open up by the way in asia in the next couple of hours and you might start to see a reaction, but although, i don't know what they have to react to, but our own markets will open in 14 hours from now here in the united states. maybe they will react to something, too, but my point is that congress could ruin a good economy. for perspective, we will talk to a republican from tennessee, representative marcia blackburn. thank you for being with us. >> good to see you, yes. >> i know we have talked about this many times and indi
the fiscal cliff. >> the idea, republicans and this is the idea that has been floated, will let us go off the cliff sor they or certain members won't have to raise taxes. >> they will cut taxes retroactive retroactively. >> seems like a bad way to go. >> look, this was a machine built to encourage compromise. and it may get easier for some republicans to come back in january if we go over the cliff. the reason, of course, all the bush tax cuts expire with the cliff, when you come back, you would only be voting to cut taxes on some force of the public, up to a certain income level. if you do it now, basically extend push tax cuts, are you effectively raising taxes on some people. might be easier for republicans, it takes us only a small step of the larger accommodation we need. we need some kind of long-term agreement to stabilize the federal government's finances and automatic spending cut side of this is a really blunt instrument. they have to come together if they are going to deal with this, and the problem as i say, all political incentives are toward polarization and refusing to bend
to go before america goes over the fiscal cliff. final day for democrats and republicans to get a deal done. if they don't, your taxes go up at the stroke of midnight. the two sides brought in their so-called closers on sunday. vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal. one major stumbling block has been overcome. republicans have dropped their demand to reduce social security, cost of living increases. you will know that as the chain cpi. >> and the public has taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. the truth is they never should have been on the table to begin with. significant distance between the two sides, but n
shows that more american will hold congressional republicans responsible for going over the fiscal cliff instead of the president. 48%-37% there. has making his case to the public either on recent trips or with his upcoming appearance, has that really given president obama the leverage in this debate? >> i certainly think it has helped because what this president has been good at i think throughout his tenure through the white house and definitely through the campaign is making the issues that he is fighting for and that he has been talking about relevant to everyday americans. and he has been asking for those same americans to make their voices heard with their congressional leaders. and as we all know, there is no one more important to congressional leaders than their own constituents back home. and so when the president asked constituents to let congressional leaders know what it's going to mean to them if their taxes rise on january 1, then leaders are going to hear from their constituents back home. i think that's a very powerful piece of pressure that washington actually does respo
republicans say the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> and imagine someone breaking into your home and ransacking your christmas tree, stealing your electronics. meet the family who encountered a real life grinch and caught the thief on camera. it's an unbelievable story, and the family will join us live in this hour. good morning, everybody. on a christmas eve, welcome to "starting point." i'm alina cho in new york. da dana, good morning. >> good morning. alina. i'm dana bash in washington. it's christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, an american contractor in kabul shot and killed earlier this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters, and it's the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working her sources, and she joins us from washington. barbara, we have seen a lot of these attacks. correct me if i'm wrong, this is the first time it's happened with a woman. >> reporter: i think that is absolutely correct, dana. u.s. offici
the fiscal cliff. now all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to them to reach the deal. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill. what's the latest? >> it's another day and another standoff. john boehner may not even bring the house back to town until the senate comes up with a possible plan. >> reporter: obama leaves his tropical retreat in hawaii for a wintry washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't so how you could hammer out any kind of a grand bargain or large plan involving tax reform and entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> reporter: serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved, writing "come together" on its cup. speaker john boehner says he's sitting this round out after failing to get enough house republicans to support his own plan just before christmas. >> i think boehner is being controlled unfortunately by the right wing. >> reporter: that leaves it up to majority leader harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a possible solution. aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making les
the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are turning towards the senate as it is going to reconvene on thursd thursday. if this fiscal cliff is to be averted, it has to get through both the senate and house with some republican support. so you're hearing pessimism now on both sides. take a listen to a democratic and a republican senator and how they see the prospects of maybe going over the fiscal cliff. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence consequenceal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> whe
. congressman, good to see you. could you back that scaled back plan to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> as i said all along, republicans don't want taxes to go up on anyone. if we have an impasse on january 1st, they go up on everyone. so at some point, i think that we republicans have got to realize that if we can't save everybody, we need to try to save as many people as possible. that's not advocating a tax increase. if a lifeguard sees ten people drowning off his beach and can only save nine of them, it doesn't mean he's drowned the tenth one. >> you're a strong, fiscal conservative, but part of that problem solvers camp who's not going to let the whole country go off the cliff. but what about your fellow fiscal conservatives? are there going to be enough of you to support a pared down plan that does raise taxes on 2% of americans? >> no, it doesn't raise taxes. those tax increases will go into effect. there's no bill before the congress that raises taxes. there are many bills that are trying to stop those taxes in various forms. and let me be clear. i think the president's plan
the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has already announced the incident but not said the
, going to have much more on the fiscal cliff negotiations coming up at 10:30. a republican and democratic strategist will face off here and talk about the prospects for reaching a deal. >>> a strike that could have shut down ports all over the east coast have been averted for now. the longshoremen union along the east coast and the gulf of mexico says it will extend its contract for the next 30 days. that extension prevented a possible strike which could have crippled operations at ports that handle nearly half of all cargo in the united states including in our area at the port of baltimore. >>> we have breaking news tonight out of prince george's county where we are following a deadly fire in a townhome in green belt. you're looking live at the scene on laurel hill road. the flames broke out an hour ago. fire investigators say one person is dead in this fire, two others in the hospital, but with nonlife threatening injuries. no word yet on a cause. >>> a news alert from the district, d.c. police want to talk with these two men they are calling persons of interest in the murder of a man o
and republicans -- that we could go over the fiscal cliff. >> well, enjoy the beach there then. i mean, what do you say at this point? you've just got to keep your fingers crossed and your toes and everything else. brianna keilar reporting live from honolulu this morning. >>> let's talk about the gun control debate because it's intensifying following the connecticut school shooting massacre. the nra's president wayne lapierre went on nbc's "meet the press" this weekend saying call him crazy for wanting to put armed security officers in schools. he doesn't mind. nra president david kean told cbs' "face the nation," a ban on assault weapons won't stop mass killings. >> we debated this before. we had a so-called assault weapons ban for ten years. we had what senator feinstein is suggesting. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department, and others who studied it said it made no difference. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> despite the national rifle association's opposition to any new gun laws, p
are not running out of ideas, they are running out of time. the prospects of a fiscal cliff plunge look closer than ever today when senate talks ground to a standstill. >> i am willing to get this done. i needed dance partner. >> republicans demanded social security cuts. democrats called that a deal killer. the gop to get off the table. the deadline is monday at midnight. if no deal, taxes go up on nine out of 10 americans. potentially catastrophic spending cuts start kicking in. lawmakers spent much of the day behind closed doors plotting strategy. president obama blamed the impasse on republicans. >> the way they are behaving is there on the priority is making sure the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> on sunday, the president talked about his plan b. he wants the senate to vote on extending tax cuts to everyone but the rich. >> if the republicans baca, middle-class taxes will go a. >> a political showdown with only one certainty, tomorrow night's deadline. the president has a plan c, reversing the effects of the cliff on january 4 when the new congress is in town. >
cliff, triggering higher taxes. that would allow hard line republicans to vote for lower taxes, a few days later. >> to make them look better? to appease voters. if that's the reason, great. >> reporter: some call it a low form of political shenanigans. >> i think that's horrible, they would put the american people through that. i don't think it's fair to the american people. >> reporter: this afternoon, east bay congresswoman barbara lee told me, there are too many lives at stake if we do not get a deal before the end of the year. john fowler, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> starbucks is urging its employees in the washington area to send a message to congress. baristas will be writing come together on coffee cups for the rest of the workweek. ceo howard schultz says he wants to send a respectful, but potent message. >>> new figures show u.s. home prices are higher than a year ago. today's kay shiller price report shows prices in the 20 largest markets were up more than 4% in october. prices in the bay area are up own moore, jumping 8.9%. phoenix topped the list, with prices up 22%. expert
is to allow the country to go over that fiscal cliff, triggering higher taxes. that would allow hard line republicans to vote for lower taxes, a few days later. >> to make them look better? to appease voters. if that's the reason, great. >> reporter: some call it a low form of political shenanigans. >> i think that's horrible, they would put the american people through that. i don't think it's fair to the american people. >> reporter: this afternoon, east bay congresswoman barbara lee told me, there are too many lives at stake if we do not get a deal before the end of the year. john fowler, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> starbucks is urging its employees in the washington area to send a message to congress. baristas will be writing come together on coffee cups for the rest of the workweek. ceo howard schultz says he wants to send a respectful, but potent message. >>> new figures show u.s. home prices are higher than a year ago. today's kay shiller price report shows prices in the 20 largest markets were up more than 4% in october. prices in the bay area are up own moore, jumping 8.9%. phoenix
and there's still no sign leaders are closer to agreeing on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. here's brian mooar. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the area. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause us to drop off in sales. >> getting a deal is up to the senate's top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader myself and the white house, in hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperf
the fiscal cliff. why? after january 1st, when everyone's taxes go up, the new congress sworn this on january 3rd could vote to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is our correspondent from washington. you look at this and we're hearing echos of the past. the republican speaker from the house of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denn
a government default. republicans have not been part of the " fiscal cliff " discussions in recent days suggesting much still needs to be done if a deal is to be struck and passed through congress by the end of the year. >> sam garner stated that the government may go out of money on december 31st. he stated that the government may not have enough to spend for next month. >> approval ratings for president obama and his cabinet are mixed. a new poll shows 52 percent of people surveyed approved of the president's performance while 43 percent disapprove. but as president joe biden's numbers are in line with the president. 54 percent approve of his job performance while 40 percent do not. first lady michelle obama has a 73 percent approval rating. all going secretary of state hillary clinton is also popular with a 66 percent approval rating. >> a new gallup poll shows a majority of americans supported stricter gun laws but most are against banning assault weapons. 58 percent of americans now say that they do support stricter gun laws. that is up from 43% in october 2011. 48% of the public s
cliff. negotiations going on this weekend to try and keep from going off the fiscal cliff. the deadline's now just three days away. president obama's modestly optimistic the top democrat and republican in the senate can work things out. jessica yellin has more on what needs to happen in order to make a deal. >> alison, christy, hi. well, the good news is, things could have been worse. it does seem those of us watching the sidelines as though time is running out. congress does some of its best, at least the speediest work when the nation's back is against the wall. >> reporter: after a rare oval office meeting, the president said he's modestly optimistic a deal can come together, emphasis on modestly. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. >> reporter: all sides left in agreement, at least over their next step. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. >> whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. some people will l
will happen with the fiscal cliff and whether we'll go over it. it is unclear. >> brianna, can we expect any other lawmakers to like jump in and try to -- you mentioned harry reid. what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get through the house, but we're definitely focusing on the senate. i will tell you talking to sources that it doesn't even appear that senate majority leader reid and senate minority leader mcconnell are talking. the discussions aren't under way yet. you talk to sources on the hill and you get the sense that reid is waiting for mcconnell to chime in and mcconnell is waiting for reid to chime in. so this is a bit of a standoff right now and we are waiting to see who is going to blink. that's really the question, who is going to blink first and the fact is we just don't know. >> brianna keilar, thank you very much. >>> first, now t
-door meeting charley. and he wants to try to figure out a way to end this fiscal cliff stalemate but you hear the rhetoric being talked about on capitol hill, among leaders, republicans and democrats are still pointing the blame at each other for not getting this deal done. and for the lack of progress. so still no movement yet and there's only a few days to go to a get anything done. charley. >> you know let's go to what was said yesterday we talk about harry reid referring to john boehner as dictator. and we got mitch mcconel saying we are not going to write a blank check coming up with solutions. it seals like there's no common -- seems like there's no common ground and the word lost in all this is compromise. >> reporter: exactly. and you are correct. the feeling here in washington is that the country will in fact go over the cliff because both sides are so far apart in coming to a deal and if that happens, analysts say the first order of duty for the new congress would be to pass tax cuts and, of course, that's politically favorable so that may be the political game that a lot of lawmake
in benghazi. >> lisa jackson, if republicans have their way in the fiscal cliff conversation, they get rid of the epa. they talk about the cannot of education, the department of agency and epa waste of money. >> cost too much, all about regulations. are you one of the few people employed to this organization who has been to north korea. >> twice. i hope to go back again soon. >>> just ahead, a warning to democrats from republicans, they will not write a blank check to solve the fiscal cliff. reaction from debbie snab now of michigan, next. >>> plus, the best selling river of "gone baby gone" and mystic river" has a new crime to solve. where is his dog? dennis lahane is asking for help finding his dog tessa. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super spa
on what could happen as the fiscal cliff counts down. i want bring in the senior congressional reporter in politico. it's clear from what was said yesterday, that he believes that the senate leaders can put together a deal. take a listen. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house with the senator and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. >> what had to happen behind the scenes? what had to transpire in the room for the president to express any optimism that a deal could be made? >> i think it was positive sounds by mitch mcconnell. the senator minority leader wants a deal. he knows in the new year, it will be harder to get a deal to the republican likings if it goes over the cliff. the republicans will suffer a bigger amount of the blame and there will be more democrats in congress in the next two years and at that point, it will be harder to shape a deal how they want it to be shaped. so mcconnell wants a deal. they are neg
also been at the hospital. >>> they are going to have high level talks regarding the fiscal cliff. here is more from washington d.c. >> reporter: senate for harry reid is trying to get republicans on board with the president's latest offer including raising taxes on those making 400,000 a year not 250,000. senator harry reid will pass this plan and does not want to put it to a vote unless he knows it will pass the housement they want to avoid fitting the call. house speaker john boehner held a meeting with fellow gop leaders and said he would give them 48 hours before calling them back from their holiday vacation meaning saturday is the earliest time a fiscal vote could take place on this deal. treasury secretary tim geithner said the united states will hit the debt ceiling on monday unless he takes extraordinary measures. they believe it could force congress to come up with a deal before monday's deadline but some republicans are not as optimistic. live in washington, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> they set $2 billion for unit who made her first court appearance. she was drunk when s
and the nation going over this fiscal cliff. the president is hoping that this afternoon's meeting at the white house with congressional democrat and republican leaders will help break the standoff. both sides continue to play the blame game here. senate majority leader reid attacked house leader boehner for blocking a vote while the gop led house isn't due back until sunday, a day before the deadline to avert the tax increases and spending cuts that could send the nation into recession again. the differences between the two sides, democrats want to raise money on everyone earning more than $250,000 a year. the president offered to up that to $400,000. republicans ejected new taxes, even though the speaker proposed on those earning a million dollars. instead, the gop wants deeper cuts. with the clock ticking, neither side is giving up ground. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what th
fiscal cliff. in the past 24 hours, there's been newfound optimism that democrats and republicans could come to a deal before december 31st. president obama met with house and senate leaders yesterday. lawmakers are hoping for a deal to help avoid tax increases for everyone as well as massive spending cuts in defense and other areas. if a deal can be reached, the senate would vote on it first and then it would head to the house. the latest the house would vote on a possible deal is january 2nd. the final full day before a new congress takes office. the house is set to return to work tomorrow night, however. speaker john boehner told fellow representatives there would be a session at 6:30 tomorrow night. he said he hopes to have a senate bill in his hand by then that they can vote on. and be sure to tune in tomorrow morning for "meet the press." david gregory will sit down with an exclusive interview with president obama. you can see "meet the press" here on nbc 4. the show starts at 10:30. >>> new this morning, many same-sex couples in the state of maine can now say they're married. tha
support in the senate and the house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are one week away from it, as you mentioned, and republicans are not even part of the discussions, both in the senate and in the house, and at this point they are certainly maybe having a working christmas. senate democrats and republicans, but i think it's interesting just to kind of recap what's going on here. before president obama and house speaker john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and tackle the long-term fiscal health of the country, trying to overall it was expected to raise some taxes, try to deal with entitlement reform and tax reform, those other big things like entitlement reform and tax reform get kicked into the new year, dana, so it's the gift that keeps on giving on this cli clifftmas. >> taking this pretty far. one of the key questions is whether or not senate democratic leader harry reid will be able to get enough republicans in the senate to vote on anything that will keep taxes low and maybe cut some spending. is the white hou
the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for political gain. take a listen. when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> now, republicans are also skeptical of the short-term deal the president is talking about because it would leave spending cuts until next year. not deal with them now. republicans don't like the idea that some taxes would go up. meanwhile, the spends cuts wouldn't come until later. although democrats on the hill say the real reason republicans have not sealed the deal with the president yet is they just won't admit that he won the election. take a listen to senator chuck schumer. >> on taxes i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform 250 no taxes below but taxes above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> independent senator joe lieberman says
who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in
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much a possibility, don, that this doesn't work out, that we go over the fiscal cliff, and that was reflected today on the sunday shows from both democrats and republicans, take a listen. >> passing plan b the other night would not have changed the outcome, we're going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now. you cannot negotiate with someone that doesn't want to negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehn boehner's plan b, i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence shall act of congressional irresponsibleability in a long time. maybe ever in american history. >> officially, the president is expected to be here -- or is supposedly here in hawaii through the new year, i think the expectation at this point is that with congress returning, president obama is likely to go back to washington to oversee things as they move. or as the fiscal cliff comes nearer and the u.s. goes over it. >> can we expect any other lawma
house to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama and congress it will be thursday before talks resume to try and prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect january first. andrew spencer has the latest. >> some republican lawmakers say old, once the country to fall off the physical cliff. >> we have gone over the cliff now, later, the fiscal cliff-you cannot negotiate with some of that does not want to negotiate. >> john boehner failed to get enough votes were planned beat that would raise taxes for people earning more than $1 million. the speaker, and the president left town without making a deal. >> i have passed leaders of congress to work together to create a deal to protect and employment for 2 million americans, protect middle america the middle income americans and also work on deficit reduction. >> the president solution would still leave red ink as far as the eye could see. and difficult for jobs. >> this is it difficult for the brink of perpetual gridlock. >> this is likely that we will go over the fiscal cliff and not and if we allow that to happen. wou
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
republican support for any bill that might pass congress to avert the fiscal cliff. >> brianna keilar reporting live from hawaii this morning. >>> checking our top stories before heading back to d.c. to try to head off the physical -- the fiscal cliff. you know what i'm saying. the president and first lady michelle obama visited marines and thanked them for their service. >> the greatest honor i have as president is being commander in chief and the reason it's an honor is because not only do we have the finest military in the world but we also have the finest fighting men and women in the world. >> mrs. obama and the girls won't cut short their vacation. they're staying on in hawaii. >>> former braves great andruw jones free on a bond in atlanta on a battery charge. there was a domestic dispute between he and his wife. the center fielder played with the new york yankees last year and recently signed with a team in japan. >>> the city of los angeles is holding its annual gun buyback today, several months ahead of schedule. the buyback program allows anyone to bring in guns and rifles i
. >>> in the developing fiscal cliff stalemate, president obama is holding a summit at the white house with congressional leaders later on today. >> so far, republicans have rejected any new taxes even those proposed by house speaker john boehner on people earning over a million dollars. the senate is in session on capitol hill and house speerk barren has called lawmakers back into session sunday night at 6:30. that only leaves just over 24 hours to come up with a deal. republican and democratic leaders in the senate continue to blame the other side. >> i guess w dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do. he backed off of even his own proposal. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we want to know your thoughts on all of this. what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff. do you think it is possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline. you can share your thoughts and comments on facebook, o
on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that would give to middle class americans. that passed the senate. now, we know that republicans have buried themselves in procedural road blocks, everything we try to do around here. and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue-slipped, because it will be blue-slipped. mr. president, how does the american people react to that? there was a bill introduced by the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it but he kobt kill it and then we moved to plan b, the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd. he meaning the speaker. so it's very clear now, mr. president, that
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